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12/31/04

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12/31/04

I finally have a chance to post an update detailing the experiences I had during the repair of the Jeep following the crash.  This update took far too long.  The root cause was located in the fact that the body shop I used managed to drag out the repair for an incredible six weeks; two weeks past the estimated due date.   In that time the events that transpired tested my patience to the limit.  The time limit on the rental car ran out, I was called twice and told that the Jeep was "done" and I could pick it up, and on more than one visit in between, I found conditions that defied explanation.

I need to qualify my story that follows by saying a few things about my past experience with crashes, body work, and automotive work in general.  First, I have had more than my fair share of crashes.   In most cases it has not been my fault, in the technical sense, though I admit I may have had a part in some of them.  Between the times that I have had my car in a body shop for repair, I have also restored a number of cars myself.  Not just little touch-up spritzes with a can of matching paint - full-blown frame-up restorations with engines, tranny's, dashes, wiring harnesses.  In short, I have had more than one car completely stripped down in my garage.  I have rebuilt engines, carburetors, and just about everything in between. 

My personal, hands-on experience was brought about as a result of three main issues:

  • lack of funds

  • bad experiences with mechanics

  • desire to get work done more quickly than a shop

I had over the years migrated away from using shops because I couldn't afford it, didn't like the way most mechanics did the work, and often found myself needed repairs at times when a shop was not available.  I bought a complete array of tools including such things as clutch alignment tools, engine hoists, a compressor and many attachments, and so on.  In recent times, after a couple of long projects restoring cars and owning more contemporary cars, I had surrendered to the Volvo dealer for repairs to my wife's car, and stayed with fixing the Jeep myself as much as possible.

So in summary, I have been there, done that, got the T-Shirt when it comes to having my vehicle repaired by a body shop, and have also done quite extensive work of this type myself.  So when I tell the story about having the Jeep fixed after the crash, it is not a paranoid rant from an ignorant fool.  It is an objective account of what really happened and how terribly wrong things can go.  Ignorance on my part might have been bliss but it would not have fostered success.

Part One

I got lucky one day and stopped by when the Jeep was on the frame machine.  I got some pictures of it all set up for the pull.

Frame Machine Data

Frame Machine

Frame MachineFrame MachineFrame MachineFrame MachineFrame MachineFrame ripple
lower control armlower control armfront linkagestabilizersway bar connectorFrame MachineFrame Machine

And again after the frame was straightened:

After the frame machine

After the frame machineAfter the frame machineSteering shaft

The story is already quite long so I am trying to keep it as short as possible.  Let's just say I got a call telling me the Jeep would be ready to be picked up on November 20.  I showed up later in the morning to find that the Jeep was way out in a corner of the shop and a few guys were trying to figure out how to put something back together.  It was almost comic except that it was MY Jeep and they seemed pretty clueless.  To say it was far from being "done" would be an understatement.  It was not assembled.  The freshly painted fender had been damaged while drying and was in need of repainting.   The flares were not installed and the wiring to the side markers on one flare had been very creatively (and incorrectly) rerouted.

But the kicker was the winch.  It was installed backwards! What the...?!  Sure enough, it had been installed facing the rear of the vehicle.  This posed no significant challenges as anyone who has ever installed a winch knows, it can be corrected by simply removing it and turning it around.  So I laughed at it (the "technician" didn't see the humor) and pointed out that it needed to face the other way.  During the short conversation that followed when the technician attempted to tell me that the winch was indeed installed correctly I found that the powdercoat finish of the winch was heavily gouged down to bare metal.  It looked like it had been dragged on the ground behind a speeding vehicle!  It is still hard for me to imagine what could have happened to cause this damage.  I contained my outrage and called it to the attention of the shop manager.  He tried to claim it was due to the accident and that the winch was going to stay that way.  I took him to this page and showed him the picture of the winch AFTER the accident but BEFORE the Jeep was brought in for repair.  With his mouth hanging slack he agreed that in fact the winch had not been damaged by the accident.   A word to the wise here:  Take pictures of your vehicle often and do not assume that your vehicle will not be further damaged between the time you crash and the time it leaves the body shop.  That picture of the winch after the accident got me my winch replaced because of the gouges that the shop caused.

Here is the list of incomplete tasks following that visit to pick up the Jeep (remember, they called me to tell me to come and get it):

Issue Parts Comments
Winch has significant damage not present when vehicle left for repair - Major scratches on face of winch Winch review pictures showing winch AFTER crash, before left for repair and it is clear that no damage to winch exists. http://4x4icon.com/offroad/1015_crash/dsc07269.htm
Winch Installed Backwards Winch Plate, tow hooks rear hold-down bolts (sway bar) not installed, require proper spacers below winch plate and above sway bar hold-down
battery spacer not installed battery spacer red rectangle interlocks under battery bottom to give battery proper height for battery hold-down bracket and bolts
cracked cover still cracked relay box end cap see photo here
air chuck not mounted to bracket left side front bumper screw missing
steering box skid plate lower retaining nut and bolt not installed requires Grade 8 hardware loose nut still inside box member adjacent to steering box but should be replaced
incorrect marker light socket and lens on passenger side fender (metal portion of fender facing front) marker light socket and lens note drivers side socket and lens - different reflector pattern, different colored socket. Passenger front
headlight grills not installed springs held by headlamp door screws; headlamp grills held by brackets and springs (brackets missing, 3 per side)
All harness and A/C retainers missing from vehicle
grill center support bolt not tightened/centered
fan binding on fan shroud
external temperature sensor not installed on bumper
winch plate not bolted with sway bar bolts requires spacer washers between winch plate and sway bar u-brackets to span space between, may require longer bolt; must use Grade 8 hardware
grill/radiator supports (rods to firewall) not straightened. painted or installed
radiator hoses not installed
hood safety latch still heavily damaged, not working correctly, unsafe replace part!
hood hold-down latches (left and right) not properly aligned, not holding hood down need to align bracket and base so rubber makes straight line between them, and latch closes over-center and will not release accidentally
radiator splash apron not installed under radiator near front of vehicle
wheel lug nut broken - was not broken when vehicle left for repair - see photos
hood - lower edge inside passenger side has paint removed from post-sanding touch up - bar metal showing needs to be painted properly to prevent corrosion and flaking
RETURN ALL PARTS LARGE AND SMALL

It should be mentioned that I had taken a day off from work, driven what ended up being 400 miles round trip, and canceled the rental car in order to pick up the Jeep.  The inconvenience caused by their inability to properly assess the status of the Jeep was significant.  My anger was kept below the surface - just...

Part II

So I spent the next week away from home driving the rental and hating every minute of it.  I was unable to go wheeling, did not have the use of my stereo (wah!) and had to live with my GPS being plugged into the cigarette lighter instead of mounted on a bracket and hard-wired (double-wah!).  By the time Friday rolled around, I was going nuts.  I got called again to come get the Jeep and I ran through the list above to be sure that EVERYTHING really was done.  I was assured everything was done.  I would soon find out it was not.

I arrived to find the Jeep still being worked on but was told it would be ready in a few hours and to come back then.   I took a deep breath and left for two hours then returned.  The Jeep was parked outside in the area used for customer cars ready for pick up.  I went over it and found most of the items on the list above had been corrected.  But there were still a littany of issues.

In the pile of old parts I discovered many parts that were not replaced and not installed on the Jeep.  The two most significant were the VIN plate from the front grill and the vacuum reservoir for the heating/cooling system. 

Crash-damaged parts

Crash-damaged parts

I also found parts missing that were present when the Jeep was left for repair.  Some left over new parts that I purchased separately were also missing.

I took all the parts and put them in the Jeep.  I registered my objections with the woman who works the counter.   She was the one shining light in the whole experience.  She was always on time with the correct work products for me.  Such a shame that the shop she stood in front of was so bad.  I was to tell her several times how happy I was with her service right behind bitching out the manager for the incompetence of the technicians...

I took the parts home and set about installing the vacuum reservoir.  Had the tech done it during the repair, with would have been a simple matter to unscrew it from the old fender and screw it onto the new fender.  But now because it is located inside the mounting bracket on the cowl, it was necessary to remove the battery and battery tray before installing it.   On the way home from the shop I had turned on the heat and the lack of this part had caused the flaps inside the dash to slam open and break.  So I was not happy.

During the drive home I also discovered that the Jeep was shaking so bad it would not be driveable.  I called the shop before I even got a mile away to report my findings (heating damage and vibrations) so that it could not be claimed later that I did these things myself later.  I can not emphasize enough how critical this would become the following Monday when I returned to the shop.

Once home, I got under the Jeep and found a large and very fresh dent in the front driveshaft.  It was shaped like the part of a floor jack that the vehicle rests on when jacking...  I disconnected the driveshaft from the front axle to eliminate the vibration temporarily so that I could drive it until it could be fixed.  My "not happy" went to burning rage.  How could this shop make so many major mistakes and stay in business?   I did some breathing exercises, ate some food, and resolved that it could all be fixed and I would not be paying so it was but a temporary glitch.  That dulled the anger that I had and allowed me to get through the weekend without killing anybody.   I sent the shop manager an email message to further document the problem:

"I have had an opportunity to take the vehicle out for a drive and find that there is a strong vibration in the drive train that was not present before the accident. It is much worse than I first thought. The vehicle is nearly undriveable at speeds above 40 MPH. It vibrates very badly. I suspect that something in the front axle, front drive shaft or transfer case is not right. This will need attention right away. I am in a particularly bad position because of course now I have returned the rental car. Also, I had a very full weekend planned and must travel to work and back early next week (200 miles each way).

I am registering this problem with you so that I can get it fixed with you, but I am very concerned about the schedule. I cannot leave it for another six weeks. I need pretty instant results. And I am concerned that you will not be able to diagnose and correct the problem because you don't specialize in 4WD vehicles. Please tell me what we can do to get this right?

<Manager's name>, it will be problematic enough if the vehicle is not repaired by Wednesday, December 1, but if it goes past December 6th, I will no longer be living in Gaithersburg! I will be permanently located 200 miles away in Morgantown. My work schedule is so full I will be unable to travel back and forth to Gaithersburg on weekdays, and even Saturdays could be a problem.

So please, with this schedule in mind, I need rapid resolution, but of course I want the work done correctly. I am thinking it would be worthwhile having the front drive shaft checked by a specialist (Jeep Dealer), and replaced if necessary. Please note that it could have been damaged in the crash and be the source of the vibration. It's a bolt-on repair. But there is also the possibility that the front axle or transfer case is damaged. I guess we'll have to work through the problem to a solution and see what turns up. I may start diagnosing it Saturday morning (the front drive shaft can be disconnected to see if the vibration goes away)."

On Monday I went in to the shop.  The manager who through the whole experience was bright and cheery and very good about promising to get things right, came to the door to greet me.  I must confess I'd had enough of his inability to manage and invited him outside so I could tear him a new one without having the pieces litter the front office.  I must admit that I managed to stay on topic, didn't call him any names, but was perhaps a little bit louder than I should have been.  I gave him a list of things that needed to be corrected:

Require attention by <shop name>:

The A/C system does not appear to be cooling. Please check and correct as needed

The front Drive Shaft needs to be removed and replaced.: <dealer name>

  • Gaithersburg, MD Counter Person - <name>

  • VIN (number)
    Front Drive Shaft Assembly Part Number 52098 377 AD.

  • Front U-joint may not be included with drive shaft assembly – please be sure to order it if necessary

There are paint issues which we discussed when I picked up the vehicle.

Oil Pressure Sending Unit not working properly (screws into right side of block) – need replacement part

Missing Parts – Provide to Customer:

The new fender flare extensions that came with the new fender flares that I paid for and were on the cart last I came to look at the Jeep are missing - I paid for them and I need them.  They are not inexpensive.  They are the short straight parts that go at the bottom rear edge of the front fenders.

Reimburse for parts not installed:

The radiator overflow hose to reservoir is punctured and leaking coolant.

The mounting studs that hold the air filter box to new fender were broken and left on the old fender, Stray hardware without washers was used to install air box instead of the correct special parts that raise the part up off the fender and isolate it with rubber bushings.

The Battery insulating material that protects the battery from overheating was not installed, it was found in parts bin ripped.

The main battery wiring harness anchor clip was not anchored to the new fender (harness clip broken, left dangling in space)

various broken clips holding wire harness and brake lines need to be replaced.

Resolved by Customer:

A vacuum box on lower rear of right-front fender was left on the old fender; and was not installed on new fender.  The vacuum hose was left dangling in space.

The VIN ID Plate for the front cross member was left affixed to the discarded grill part, it should be installed on the new grill

The interior heater/cooling vents are not working after loud "POP!" within minutes of starting vehicle. (vacuum box install corrected HVAC problem)

The winch plate center bolt not bolted to frame, was left dangling loose.

The brake lines left unanchored running across the front of vehicle with anchor clips broken.

The Left front turn signal on fender flare is "flaky" - sometimes it works, sometimes it is off.

For some inexplicable reason, the drain tubing that allows condensation to drain from the a/c was modified. The factory hose coming out of the firewall is missing and the extension tubing that I installed to lengthen the factory tube has been put in its place."

Wow.  That's quite a list for a vehicle that has twice been statused as "done"...

I brought the Jeep back to have the drive shaft installed only because we were moving to a new home and I was scheduled to be with the movers all day and could not do it myself.  I had no choice really.  The list above clear states that I fixed the vacuum reservoir problem but for some reason I can't understand, the "technician" attempted to take it apart anyway, then tried to lie to me about the work he did.  At this point it was all too much.  I nearly got in a fist fight with this mouth-breathing sack of b.s.  I chose instead to walk away.

Home at LastHome at LastHome at LastPoseur Jeep

Front end with new bumper, shackles, flares, winchFront end with new bumper, shackles, flares, winchFront end with new bumper, shackles, flares, winch

Rubicon FlareNew Bumper, Winch and D-shackles

In the course of six weeks I was lied to, had my vehicle fixed with aftermarket parts that were not authorized, twice called to come pick up a vehicle that was clearly not ready to be driven, and had several other things damaged that were not related to the crash.  I ended up doing a lot of work myself, diagnosing several of their mistakes and generally being my own advocate.  In the end I wished that I had never let them lay hands on my vehicle.  But the best was yet to come.

A week after I got the Jeep back, I was driving back from our new home (200 miles away) and the engine blew...  Remember that line item for the oil pressure gauge?  The oil pressure gauge was fine - the engine really did have low pressure and ultimately self-destructed on a deserted highway one hour before I was to arrive for the settlement meeting to sell my old home...  Bob the Builder Can You Fix it!?  Bob the Builder Yes We Can!

The engine failure was unfortunately too far apart from the crash and subsequent body shop debacle to be considered part of the accident so that bill came out of my ass.  See the story describing that fun!

 


 

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