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Star Date 1985

Quite some time ago, I had played around with radar detectors.  In about 1985 or 1986, when I was making frequent trips through Connecticut on Interstate 95, I was seeing a lot of unmarked Mustang 5.0's that were reeling in victims left and right.  I had always managed to avoid getting stopped by adhering to the speed limit going through there, but was worried that my attention might lapse and I would get popped.  I barely had enough money to pay for gas for the trips.  I could not afford a ticket or the insurance hit.  So I decided to try a detector and see what if any benefits it had to offer.

My radar detector history is not strong so I can't say what technology was current at the time.  I believe the unit I purchased probably handled X and K bands.  It was a remote-install unit that I put in behind the front grill of my 1800ES, with the control panel installed in the dash. 

Volvo 1800ES (circa 1981)

It was stealthy in that you could not see the unit on the dash, and the control panel was very small.  But I always suspected that the low mounting point and narrow view of the sensor did nothing for the range of the unit.

In my one trip through Connecticut with that unit, I was woefully disappointed by the performance of the unit.  It didn't alert in time for any of the speed traps I saw.  Although I did not get a ticket, it was not because the radar detector saved me - it was because I was alert and generally traveling the speed limit.  Going back to my economic situation I decided the cost of this unit was not justifiable, removed it from my car and returned it to the store, greatly disillusioned by the device and the concept in general.

Time Warp 2008

Some 23 years and 8 cars later, the idea again occurred to me.  Driving long distances on open highway with several regular speed traps, I again wondered about the benefits of a device that would give me an early warning and help me to keep my speed in check.  I had a year or so back gotten a ticket for speeding.  It was late at night.  I was returning home from Massachusetts with my family.  We were descending a long steep hill in a remote area.  The speed of the vehicle had crept up past the limit tolerated, and poof!  I was stopped and cited.  I wasn't purposely speeding, and I didn't think of the hill causing my speed to creep up.  So I got the ticket and the attending surcharges.  Ouch!

After a year of repeatedly passing the same radar site, and despite no more tickets, it made me uncomfortable to know that the trap was often there and before reaching it, I would have no way of knowing, and no reminder to check my speed and get back to a speed that would avoid a problem.  Also, additional sites were appearing and at least two of them were not always in the same exact location, though they were within a mile or two of each other.  There was just too much enforcement going on for me to be confident I would always be alert enough to avoid a problem.  So I decided to try a radar detector again. 

False Start / Big Mistake / Money-Back Guarantee

I shopped the big electronics stores before I did my homework (bad mistake) and found some cool looking units that boasted great features.  The first unit I bought claimed some terrific specifications.  Without doing the research, it sounded like it would work well for me.  I purchased the Cobra XRS-9440.  Now stay with me because I did not, in the end, stay with the Cobra.  Despite my satisfaction with their CB unit in my Jeep, the radar unit had "issues"...

Cobra XRS-9440Cobra XRS-9440

It had the following specs:

XRS-9440 RADAR/LASER DETECTOR
  • Includes auto mute, 12-volt power cord with cigarette lighter plug, dim switch, adjustable windshield bracket and optional dash mounting fasteners
  • Safety Alert™ warns of hazards on the road with transmitters
  • Manufacturer's 6-month warranty
The UltraBright™ Data Display utilizes identification letters to designate radar band detected. With Strobe Alert™, strobe signals can warn you of approaching emergency vehicles. VG-2 Alert™ warns you of VG-2 detection and makes you undetectable to VG-2 radar surveillance. Also can detect Spectre Radar detection. Each band has audio and visual alerts in addition to signal strength indicators.

Features:

  • Modes for city and highway
  • Strobe Alert™, strobe signals can warn you of approaching emergency vehicles
    Voice alert
  • 360° laser protection—omni-directional
  • Digital signal strength meter
  • 12 bands in all!
  • Voice Alert™, provides separate voice i.d. of all speed monitoring and safety alert signals
  • Intellimute™ (eliminates false alerts) and system-ready prompt
  • Setting memory
  • Ku-Band Radar Signal
  • X-Band Radar Signal
  • K-Band Radar Signal
  • Ka Superwide Signal
  • LT 20-20 Laser Signal
  • Ultra Lyte Laser Signal
  • ProLaser Signal
  • ProLaser Signal III

My test was admittedly unscientific, but the things I was interested in were easy to evaluate and decide. 

  • In the city, the Intellimute was good - squelching X-band warnings based on my engine RPM.  That worked but given the nature of X-band in the city, all it really told me was that there was some X-band source around to ignore, more or less a statement of the obvious.

  • The unit was very conspicuous - lots of chrome glaring on the windshield, and a large coiled cable showing.

  • The volume of alerts from the unit were inadequate to overcome my stereo, requiring me to turn the stereo way down if I was to have any hope of hearing the voice warnings.

  • The unit false-alerted often to Ka band signals - no sign of any enforcement operations in this area either during the time I was using this unit or any time in the past.

  • The Radar Detector-Detector (RDD) stealth feature was meaningless as the technology it protects against is obsolete and the unit is visible to current RDD technology

  • The range of detection of one speed trap on my trip was less than 150 feet for a Ka frequency.  Pathetic...

  • the unit produced bright reflections of itself on the dash that were annoying.

My reading further diminished the value of the unit:

  • VG-2 Radar Detector Detectors are obsolete, no longer used, hence the feature offered by this unit is worthless...

  • Strobe-Alert is another pointless feature - If I can't see a vehicle running Code-3, I shouldn't be driving...

  • Safety Alert isn't widely used...

  • No hard-wire cord is provided

  • The current radar detector detector technology can detect this unit from great distances

  • This unit cannot detect most radar signals until it is right on top of them

  • This unit has signal leakage that is so bad it trips other radar detectors in other cars

The few features I offered that were nice were completely overshadowed by the lack of performance of the unit's primary functions!

Ejector Seat Button

In short, I concluded that the unit was not going to offer me any useful benefit.  The range was very short, the false alerts were too frequent, and the features it offered could not be evaluated or were not useful.  I returned the unit to the place of purchase and got a refund.

It didn't help any that the Cobra line of radar detectors are not highly regarded by consumers or experienced testers.  Realizing that I knew little about these things, I did a lot of reading.  One respected tester cited three major brands of detectors and ignored Cobra completely.  I was able to conclude after considerable reading elsewhere that he must have adopted the "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" philosophy.  Others were not so generous.

With all the reading, it came down to a small handful of units that received consistent high test results, routinely appear compared to each other, and whose communities of users are staunch defenders of their respective choices.  And all of these brand-users are united in their disdain for Cobra units, and particularly the range of units that include the one I tried.

Once you reach a level of quality and performance in electronics products, the small differences between brands come down to the individual preference of users, and features that not all users value equally.  Such is the case with radar detectors.  Generally, users who do not live in or travel where radar detectors are illegal do not care about RDD invisibility.  Those who do not travel on the open highway are less concerned about long-range detection.  Those on a budget will opt for fewer features though may demand high performance from the features they get.

With all this in play, it's hard to evaluate what type of unit will work for me.  But in the end, I decided I needed the following basic features:

  • highway performance - long-range detection

  • RDD technology - I can be forgetful, so I wanted to have a unit that would keep me from getting in trouble if I happen to forget to unplug it and stow it when crossing into territory where radar detectors are illegal.

  • loud warnings - something that I had a chance of hearing over the stereo

  • discretion - I wanted something that would be fairly inconspicuous in the car

Beltronics STi Driver

After reading numerous test reports, consumer reviews, discussion group banter, and looking at the specifications and features, I concluded that the Beltronics STi Driver most likely met my needs. 

Beltronics STi Driver

 

 

 

Beltronics STi Driver accessories

I was forced by price to set aside my strong desire to have the unit concealed.  At twice the cost of the dash-mounted unit, I could not justify the extra cost.  I struggle with that concession but realistically just can't justify the serious premium.  I will just have to be very good about putting the unit away when it's not appropriate to use it.

Beltronics STi Driver Radar Detector Features

  • 10x Range vs. Imports
  • NEW Exclusive TotalShield™ Technology
  • All U.S. Radar and Laser Band Coverage
  • Dual Antenna Design
  • Multi-Sensor Laser Protection
  • Complete VG-2 Immunity
  • Digital "POP" Radar Alert
  • Advanced AutoScan™ Processing
  • Digital Signal Processing (DSP) - Virtually Eliminates False Alerts
  • Clear Digital Voice or Audio Alerts
  • Mute and AutoMute Audio Controls
  • Easy-to-Use Options and Controls
  • Ultra-Bright High Definition Display
  • Brightness Control with Dark Mode
  • Magnesium Construction
  • One year limited warranty
  • 2 year extended service plan available
  • Free 30 day test drive (applies to factory direct orders only)

Beltronics STi Driver Radar Detector Specifications

Operating Bands
 X-band: 10.525 GHz ± 25 MHz
 K-band: 24.150 GHz ± 100 MHz
 Ka-band: 34.700 GHz ± 1300 MHz
 Laser: 904nm, 33MHz bandwidth

Radar Receiver/Detector Type
 Dual LNA Microwave Receiver
 Superheterodyne, Varactor Tuned VCO
 Scanning Frequency Discriminator
 Digital Signal Processing (DSP)

Laser Detection
 Quantum Limited Video Receiver
 5 Optical Laser Sensors

Display Type
 280 LED Alphanumeric
 Bar Graph, Threat Display™, Tech Display™
 Automatic plus 4 levels of fixed brightness including full Dark

Power Requirement
 12VDC, Negative Ground
 Coiled SmartPlug™ with Mute Button
 Direct wire SmartPlug™ with Mute Button

 
Programmable Features
 Display
 Power-On Indication
 Alert Lamp
 Voice Alerts
 Power-On Sequence
 Signal Strength Meter
 AutoMute
 Brightness
 Bands

Sensitivity Control
 Highway
 AutoScan™
 City / City NoX

Additional Patented Technology
 Auto Calibration Circuitry
 Mute / AutoMute / SmartMute
 TotalShield™ Technology

Dimensions (Inches)
 1.25H x 2.75W x 4.75L
 

 

It remains to be seen how well this unit performs.  The test reports I have found indicate it is significantly better than the Cobra I evaluated.

Update 12/19/08

It's been a little over six months since I installed the radar detector.  Since that time I have spent considerable time on the open road.  At first the unit confirmed all the known traps and revealed some interesting behavior of law enforcement.  It seems the state police in my area leave their radar guns turned on all the time.  This is helpful since the detector alerts a good distance before law enforcement is visible.  The unit has also proven useful when law enforcement sets up in new places, or does not keep a regular schedule at the usual spots.

On trips with my other vehicle, I move the unit in and use the windshield mount at the cigarette lighter plug.  It has saved us a fair number of times, including one day when state and local enforcement set up to catch the crowd rushing to the lake resort that I pass on my way home from the big city.  We came around a long bend, started down a long hill, and about 1/2 mile from the operation, the laser detector alerted!  There were many cars ahead of us and this gave us time to check speed and make any necessary corrections before they "shot" us.  Lots of tickets were issued - none had our license plate number on them...

It's definitely working.  And I have absent-mindedly forgotten to remove it when crossing into jurisdictions where it's not allowed, and have not been stopped for having a radar detector.

One down side - it detects cars with cheap radar detector units because they tend to leak Ka Band.  Other than that, it's great!

Installation

My aftermarket electronics are incorporated into the power circuit of my cars rather than using an accessory plug.  This would be no exception.  I hard-wired the power using the direct wire SmartPlug included with the unit, and saved the accessory cord for use in one of the other cars for temporary use.

Wired Power Cord and Remote Control

Starting from the fuse panel that I added for my stereo and other electronics, I ran the lead through the console, along the driver's side knee bolster, under the door weather stripping up to the "a" pillar, along the headliner, to the unit.

Fuse Panel Wiring

The resulting aftermarket wiring diagram for the auxiliary fuse boxes now looks like this:

Auxiliary Fuse Box Connections

I placed the speaker in a temporary position behind the drivers seat, using double-bonding heavy duty Velcro-style strips and hard-wired the power to the same auxiliary fuse panel. 

Amplified Speaker

Amplified Speaker

Remote Powered Speaker

I placed the radar detector in the place usually reserved for garage door openers - on my sun visor.  It's probably not going to be very effective for the laser detection (front or rear) but from what I understand, chances are, if it alerts for laser, it's probably telling me that I am about to get a ticket.  For X, K and Ka, higher mounting is preferred.  Since I don't want the unit sitting in the middle of the windshield, this is fine by me.

It's not very visible from outside:

Front View with Radar Detector Installed
Rear View with Radar Detector Installed

It's easy to see inside, and in situations where there is bright light coming from the front of the vehicle through the back hatch, it is small but visible from outside.  Running it "dark" should minimize visibility from outside.

Radar Detector on Visor

Rear View with Radar Detector Installed (Hatch Open)

The remote switch panel was placed next to the GPS bracket.

Remote Panel
Remote Panel

Pioneer CD-SR11 Steering Wheel Remote Control Pioneer DEH-P980BT Head Unit Install info for RAM Mount and Panavise GPS Brackets Remote Control for Infinity BassLink Subwoofer Remote Control for BEL Driver STi Radar Detector Pioneer AVD-W6210 Touch Screen Display (for Pioneer Vehicle Dynamics Processor AVG-VDP1 and Pioneer ND-BC2 Rear View Camera) Brake Switch for Pioneer AVG-VPD1 Vehicle Dynamics Processor Karmann Badge Switch to Activate Pioneer ND-BC2 Rear View Camera Ejector Seat Button Chrysler Crossfire - Customizations to Interior

All the wires were fished under panels in the interior to complete the installation and make it as clean as possible.

First Impressions

Once installed and with the wires routed out of sight, I took several drives, including two, two-hundred plus trips back and forth along the same route.  The unit alerts to various sorts of radar signals.  Every last alert that I got, with the exception of a "YOUR SPEED" sign, was a false alert of one sort of another.  The "X" band alerts aren't too surprising, and easy to deal with.  One push on the MUTE button and it's over.

I saw several cruisers on the road.  Not one of them tripped an alert.  Not a peep.  To be fair, I was traveling at the speed limit or in the allowable zone of the speed limit.  So I guess nobody felt it was worth hitting me with a signal.  I knew about the "YOUR SPEED" sign so that alert came after I started listening for it - the sign was about 1000 feet away behind a corner so I guess if it had been a trap, it would have been useful.

On my way home I saw a state cruiser that was patrolling a stretch that is very inviting to let out all the stops.  I had seen the same area being repeatedly patrolled on my trip in, with a state car going past me three times and then back in the other direction, looping, looping, looping.  Not sure if maybe he thought "here's some hump with a fast looking car, let's see if I can catch him with his foot to the floor...", of if he was just doing a routine circuit.  Either way, he never hit me with a signal and I never broke over the speed limit.

On the way back, I had just gotten on this stretch and, checking my mirrors, as I continuously do out of habit, I saw the patrol car about a mile back coming on like a freight train, so I slid into the right lane and maintained the speed limit.  He caught up, slipped in behind me and paced me for at least a mile and then got off the highway.  He never hit me with a signal (or at least the radar detector never alerted).  If I had not been watching my back...?

I stopped for a rest room and got back on the road and within five minutes he was back in my rear mirror, and again paced me for a bit and then moved on up the road.  Again, no alert.

So really, observing the speed limit, watching out for activity, and staying within the speeds tolerated and posted, the radar detector didn't really do anything.  I don't think I want to test my luck by speeding to see if that triggers some officer to hit me with a signal - chances are the detector would tell me but it might be too late.  What's the point?  I guess I will have to see if traveling some less familiar route it saves my ass under different conditions.  I know the roads from this episode so well I am my own radar detector!

Other Stuff

Here are some other interesting items I found online that offer alternatives.

Windshield Mounting Bracket

Visor Pouch

 

Beltronics STi Driver accessoriesBeltronics STi Driver

 

 

007RadarDetectors.com 2008 Test

RadarTest.com

Curve ChartCurve Site Ka Composite

 

Straightaway ChartStraight Site Ka Composite

laserveil.com

Spectre/Stalcar RDD

Radar Detector versus Spectre Mk IV Spectre Mk IV +
Beltronics (BEL) RX-65 Pro 542ft (174m) 722ft (233m)
Beltronics (BEL) STi Driver 0ft (0m) 0ft (0m)
Cobra 9110 4813ft (1604m) 299ft (96.5m)
Cobra 9330 1264ft (408m) 30ft (9.7m)
Escort Passport 9500i 35ft (11.3m) 33ft (10.6m)
Escort Solo S2 1395ft (450m) 232ft (85m)
Valentine 1 (V1) v3.863 171ft (55m) 150ft (48m)
Whistler Pro 78 not tested 434ft (140m)

 
Whistler XTR 690 not tested 419ft (135m)
Whistler 1763 4828ft (1557m) 4810ft (1552m)
Whistler 1788 282ft (84m) 289ft (27m)
 
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Virginia

§ 46.2-1079. Radar detectors; demerit points not to be awarded.

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth when such vehicle is equipped with any device or mechanism, passive or active, to detect or purposefully interfere with or diminish the measurement capabilities of any radar, laser, or other device or mechanism employed by law-enforcement personnel to measure the speed of motor vehicles on the highways of the Commonwealth for law-enforcement purposes. It shall be unlawful to use any such device or mechanism on any such motor vehicle on the highways. It shall be unlawful to sell any such device or mechanism in the Commonwealth. However, provisions of this section shall not apply to any receiver of radio waves utilized for lawful purposes to receive any signal from a frequency lawfully licensed by any state or federal agency.

This section shall not be construed to authorize the forfeiture to the Commonwealth of any such device or mechanism. Any such device or mechanism may be taken by the arresting officer if needed as evidence, and, when no longer needed, shall be returned to the person charged with a violation of this section, or at that person's request, and his expense, mailed to an address specified by him. Any unclaimed devices may be destroyed on court order after six months have elapsed from the final date for filing an appeal.

Except as provided in subsection B of this section, the presence of any such prohibited device or mechanism in or on a motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth shall constitute prima facie evidence of the violation of this section. The Commonwealth need not prove that the device or mechanism in question was in an operative condition or being operated.

B. A person shall not be guilty of a violation of this section when the device or mechanism in question, at the time of the alleged offense, had no power source and was not readily accessible for use by the driver or any passenger in the vehicle.

C. This section shall not apply to motor vehicles owned by the Commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof and used by law-enforcement officers in their official duties, nor to the sale of any such device or mechanism to law-enforcement agencies for use in their official duties.

D. No demerit points shall be awarded by the Commissioner for violations of this section. Any demerit points awarded by the Commissioner prior to July 1, 1992, for any violation of this section shall be rescinded and the driving record of any person awarded demerit points for a violation of this section shall be amended to reflect such rescission.

(1962, c. 125, § 46.1-198.1; 1975, c. 108; 1976, c. 90; 1978, cc. 87, 91; 1981, c. 303; 1989, c. 727; 1992, c. 825; 1998, c. 300.)