Pioneer Premier DEH-P980BT

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Commentary - Crossfire Factory Head Unit with Drive+Play is "OK" but I want more...much more...

Web Site Note:

Once I decided on the Pioneer Premier DEH-980BT, it caused a domino affect.  The separate bluetooth adapter went back unopened. The Drive+Play and Roady XT XM tuner were installed for eight months with the new Pioneer head unit, and then swapped out for Pioneer-compatible iPod and XM components.  At that time I revised these web pages to present the installation of the head unit, auxiliary fuse panel, the Pioneer iPod adapter and Pioneer XM Tuner components as separate pages.  For completeness, I have left the wiring diagrams for installing the Drive+Play with the Factory or Pioneer, and have provided the updated wiring diagrams for the fully integrated Pioneer solution.

The most logical installation options given the various combinations of devices I have used is one of the following:

  • (OK sound - most economical solution) Chrysler Factory Radio with harman/kardon Drive+Play and Roady XT XM Tuner - uses wired or wireless FM Modulation to transmit iPod and XM Tuner signal to system through factory FM radio, Becker USA sells low-cost, effective phone connection compatible with Chrysler Factory system.

  • (Best sound, cleanest installation, cost no-object solution)    Pioneer DEH-P980BT featuring integrated Bluetooth wireless hands free phone connection, with Pioneer iPod and XM Tuner components - all components are integrated using the Pioneer IP-BUS direct connection.

I had one intermediate configuration:

  • (Better sound, moderate cost, cluttered install) Pioneer DEH-P980BT with harman/kardon Drive+Play and Roady XT XM Tuner - this was the initial configuration following install of the Pioneer DEH-P980BT that I ran very happily for eight months until I got a great deal on the Pioneer components and reconfigured)

 

After installing the Harman/Kardon Drive+Play to use my iPod with the stereo system, I discovered the wired and transmitted FM Modulation methods of getting the signal to the head unit were not satisfactory to my listening habits and tastes.  The kids didn't notice the difference, and quite a few people who use this solution with the Crossfire factory stereo are quite happy.  But for me, the quality of the sound just wasn't there.  The FM interference and the narrow frequency response of the FM signal conspired to make the sound quite poor, lacking channel separation.  Additionally, the OEM head unit did not offer a way to connect auxiliary units beyond what you can sneak through the additional input that is provided by the Drive+Play.

Typical Crossfire Factory AUX Configuration (no AUX)

The closest the factory unit by itself comes to providing an auxiliary input is a mono connection for the cell phone system. (diagram).  This isn't even close to what is necessary for quality audio accessories.  Nevertheless, I did install this feature before the Drive+Play, thinking I would get another Motorola Bluetooth to route my phone to the stereo.  This will work so if you are happy with your factory stereo using the Drive and Play, I highly recommend adding the Phone connection.

Decisions, Decisions...

Back to the iPod and other auxiliary inputs, I knew that the iPod and recorded material was not the problem.  By comparison, the same iPod plugged directly into my Jeep head unit with a stereo connector produced the kind of music quality that I expect - clean sound with no static or noise, and the full frequency response and stereo imaging available at the head unit.  The missing link was definitely a directly wired connection with no FM in between.  The problem was that the Becker factory radio (rebadged as an Infinity 6806) did not provide an auxiliary input.  Well, the hardware has provisions but the firmware isn't programmed to support it.

I explored the options and found two for my existing head unit:

  • Go on a pilgrimage to have my Becker/Infinity head unit "flashed" by a Porsche or VW dealer to enable the CD-changer channels and then purchase a CD-emulator port to provide me with an AUX input... or

  • live with it

In short, the Infinity/Becker head unit offers no easy way to add high quality auxiliary inputs.  My plans to wire in a hands-free blue-tooth phone accessory would have to be achieved.  This would add yet another device to the already cluttered dash panel.  This just wasn't shaping up very well.

The solution was fairly obvious.   I needed to have a new head unit that natively supported auxiliary inputs. 

Aftermarket Head Unit AUX Configuration

The Pioneer in the Jeep has a bus circuit ("IP BUS") that enables a host of options, including the support for an auxiliary channel.  I took a look at the latest Pioneer units compatible with my car and found one unit that both fit the opening in the dash and solved several problems for me at once:

  • natively supports auxiliary inputs via 3.5mm/1/8" mini phono jack

  • CD/MP3/WMA/AAC compatible CD player

  • built-in Bluetooth wireless phone with voice dialing, etc.

  • supports the standard Pioneer bus just like my Jeep head unit:

    • enables iPod with control through front of head unit

    • enables XM or Sirius radio through the front of the head unit

    • enables remote CD Changer

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This effectively solved all my problems in one fell swoop.  I canceled the Motorola IHF-1000 Bluetooth Hands free unit that I had just ordered.  I can directly connect my iPod to the head unit without using FM modulation.  I can play a wide variety of CD formats.  And I have iPod, Satellite Radio, and CD-changer options.

I considered and dismissed units with built in navigation.  I considered and dismissed DVD units with the flip-out screens.  And I dismissed lower end units of similar design to the DEH-P980BT.

Installation

The install of the head unit, (for those with moderate experience with stereos) is pretty straightforward.  The unit comes with a DIN panel insert that is locked in place with tabs.

DIN Sleeve

DIN Sleeve

I purchased separately a harness connector that fits the plug leading to the existing system.  It is spliced to the wires on the new head unit.


Schosche VW01B

 

Wiring Harness Adapter Installed on Radio Pigtail

I left the Socket A, Pins 1 and 2 disconnected; and connected the rest of the pins on Socket A.  I left the rear speaker leads disconnected and connected the front speaker leads on Socket B.

    Becker Radio Connector (into car) Wires
(into aftermarket stereo)
Socket Pin   Color    
    Socket A (power/modes)      
A 1 Speed Volume Control      
A 2 unused or reversing lamp signal      
A 3 telephone mute

Blue/White

   
A 4 permanent positive 12v (fuse terminal 30) Yellow *    
A 5 Amp/power antenna on Blue    
A 6 Illumination (fuse terminal 58d) Orange    
A 7 switched postive 12v (fuse terminal 15) Red *    
A 8 Ground (-) Black    
           
    Socket B (speakers)      
B 1 RR (+) Violet    
B 2 RR (-) Violet/Black    
B 3 RF (+) Gray    
B 4 RF (-) Gray/Black    
B 5 LF (+) White    
B 6 LF (-) White/Black    
B 7 LR (+) Green    
B 8 LR (-) Green/Black    
           
    RR - Right Rear      
    RF - Right Front      
    LF - Left Front      
    LR - Left Rear      
           
  * Permanent Positive and switched positive      
    leads should be checked and wired based      
    on state measured coming out of car harness      

Note:  This chart shows the colors of the wires in the Schosche VW01B connector.  The purpose of the red and yellow wires are swapped for this application:

  • the red wire of the connector is spliced to the yellow wire in the stereo harness

  • the yellow wire of the connector is spliced to the red wire on the stereo harness

It's a good idea to test the leads in the harness connector before you attach it to the head unit by plugging it into the car and checking the red and yellow leads with a multi-meter to make sure it matches what I documented here.

With the harness adapter spliced to the wires coming out of the Pioneer DEH-P980BT all that remains is to connect the auxiliary devices, radio antenna, and harness connector to the car's harness socket.

This is the appearance of the connector in the car:


Pioneer Premier DEH-P980BT with Drive+Play iPod adapter and Roady XT XM Tuner

This section presents the configuration of the head unit with the Drive+Play and Roady XT.

I routed the AUX lead (previously plugged into the back of the head unit using a 3.5mm stereo lead and the microphone lead into the console and out to the Drive+Play (AUX) and driver's side visor (MIC) respectively.  I connected the socket to the car wiring harness.  I used an antenna adapter from the previous phase of this install to connect the antenna lead to the back of the stereo.

Euro female to Motorola male
Works with a variety of 1999-up European and American vehicles

Then I slid the head unit into place in the dash.  I turned on the car and everything worked first try!  I used the automatic features for setting the equalizer base setting and speaker phasing.  I turned on the AUX port in the Pioneer menu, tested the iPod and external XM radio (both rock!) and coupled my Bluetooth phone.  Then I uploaded some new screen visualizations.  The manual is thick - nice bedtime reading!

As part of the installation of the Pioneer DEH-P980BT, I installed an auxiliary fuse panel for the stereo and other electronic devices to be added.

Pioneer Premier DEH-980BT - Crossfire Chrysler Screen

 

Crossfire Interior with new wiring
With External GPS, Drive+Play iPod Interface and XM Radio

Crossfire Night Interior with new wiring

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Crossfire Interior with new wiring

 

I plugged the existing XM radio receiver into the Harman/Kardon auxiliary input which eliminates the FM modulation of XM radio signals. 

XM Radio Tuner to harman/kardon Drive+Play

The Harman/Kardon automatically switches between the iPod and the XM radio channels so I don't have to deal with it on the head unit.

This greatly reduced the complexity of the wiring to the Drive+Play and eliminated the addition of the hands-free unit which would have further complicated this install and dash.  Here is the component layout for this set-up.

Wiring - Click to Enlarge

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Pioneer Premier DEH-P980BT with CD-IB100II iPod Adapter and GEX-P920XM XM Tuner

Later I elected to eliminate the Drive+Play and XM radio receiver from my dash and use a hidden units available from Pioneer.  If the iPod sound quality is as good as in the Jeep, I doubt I will need to add a CD changer, but that option is available as well.

 

6/18/09 Updated Component Layout (below) following installation of Pioneer iPod and XM integrated components

After eight months of living with the new head unit, the Drive+Play and Roady XT, I am very happy with the sound but not so happy with the extra gear bolted to the dash.  The lights at night look cool but can be a bit bright.  The extra gear is in the way of the passenger airbag.

I decided it was time to integrate the iPod adapter and XM tuner into the head unit controls and do away with the external gear.  All I did was remove the Drive+Play and Roady XT from the bracket, remove the knob from the console, and the power connections from the auxiliary fuse panel.  Then I installed the two Pioneer components.  Bam! Cleaner dash and all controls in the head unit!

Pioneer Premier DEH-980BT


Here is a logical view of the stereo system

Pioneer / Infinity Sound System
  Radio Devices   External Devices
  Sat Antenna   Antenna   USB Device iPod Music Phone   Generic Device
  Cable   Cable Splitter   USB Cable iPod Cable Blue Tooth   Mini Cable
  Pioneer GEX-P920 XM Satellite Digital Tuner   Pioneer GEX-P10HD HD Radio   Pioneer CD-UB100 USB Adapter Pioneer CD-IB100II iPod Adapter          
                       
Source XM   External 1   External 2 iPod   BT Audio Phone   Aux  
                         
  XM Satellite Radio   HD Radio   USB              
                         
  AM   FM     CD                                        
                                                     
                                                     
          Sub     Pioneer Premier DEH-P980BT
Head Unit
IP-BUS            
                       
Out               Rear   Blue Tooth In  
                       
                Front  Auxiliary Stereo Cable
                     
                                                                 
                                                                 
                                                                 
                                                           
  Factory Tweeter                   Factory Power Amp           Factory Tweeter
Front Factory Mid-range                               Factory Mid-range
  Factory Sub-Woofer                 Left Added Speakers Right         Factory Sub-Woofer
                                   
                                     
                                     
                                                             
                                                             
                                                               
Rear Infinity 3022cf
Speaker Array

 
                Infinity Basslink               Infinity 3022cf
Speaker Array
                               
                               
                               
                             
                             
                     
Sub         Powered Sub-Woofer            
                       

 

The wiring chart below illustrates the configuration and additional pages added to the web site explain the Pioneer DEH-980BT head unit, iPod Adapter, XM Tuner, HD Radio, USB Adapter, Infinity 3022cf rear speaker array, and Infinity Basslink installations. 

Here is the updated component layout and wiring.  The major components may be clicked to see more details about them.

 

Pioneer System Diagram with Component Wiring

Updated Component Wiring Diagram (click on components for write-ups)

 

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Installation Manual

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